Danger Zone


This past weekend I was fortunate enough to accompany the Royal Thai Police

16 Comments so far

  1. that guy (unregistered) on August 15th, 2005 @ 9:10 pm

    while pacifism will not suffice, i personally feel neither will violence. its been almost 4 years since the war in afghanistan started and its still not over. the war in israel and palestine has been going on for decades.
    this is a new type of battle and thus new types of solutions must be sought.

  2. him (unregistered) on August 15th, 2005 @ 11:47 pm

    To me, World War III has already started. It is a global war not just in Bangkok, US, the Middle East, Indonesia, or London people are dying left and right, every single day because a group of radical religious fanatics. Who thinks this is God

  3. Dan (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 12:32 am

    “This past weekend I was fortunate enough to accompany the Royal Thai Police

  4. aurix (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 1:13 am

    i agree with That Guy. what we have here is another case of religious fundamentalism. violence, no matter how much, can’t get rid of it–it might in fact make things worse…

    you also have to take into account the socioeconomic and cultural factors. counter-striking results in nothing but more and more human casualties, on both ends.

    that’s just my two cents, anyways. maybe i’m too naive, maybe i don’t know what i’m talking about. i admit that i’ve never been down there myself like you did, so you’re probably looking at it from an entirely different perspective.

  5. aurix (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 1:27 am

    in fact, like HIM just said, it’s not even religious fundamentalism, it’s separatism, it’s resistance–so one might say it operates at an even more complex level than fundamentalism. i doubt state-sanctioned violence, which, well, has taken place before actually, would achieve anything constructive.

  6. Bonifide (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 11:23 am

    You know its funny how you mention the separtism. If it was separtism, I wish we’d just give them the frickin’ provinces — and let them be, close the borders and let them survive on their own.

    Aside from the Muslims that the Police brought to parade around for photo ops, I ventured off on my own to talk to a few of the Muslim locals around time.

    Every single one just wanted peace to return and get on with their lives, they themselves are even afraid to come out of their own homes. Perhaps I drew too quick of a conclusion because I only talked to about 10 or so people but from what I take, it isn’t the general consensus.

    All out violence won’t solve anything that I understand, but neither will reasoning with people who have no reason.

    Him: I relate this to the South because they are few group of extremist who are causing a majority of the population chaos, whether it is in the South or where else ever in the War. They are Muslim extremist in the South.

    War is a state of open, armed, prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties. To me, its been an ongoing war between the rest of the civil nations & extremist factions; that has been spreading.

    I believe strongly that when it comes to violence, no one ever wins — fathers, mothers, children die for what reason; so a few people can prove a point? But there are times when it is necessary.

  7. Ben Harris (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 12:32 pm

    That’s a great photo by the way.

  8. THAT AJARN (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 12:39 pm

    I think Mr. Bonifide should think for a couple of minutes before posting because he always ends up having to say he was incorrect to some degree.

    If nothing else, you cannot simply apply the word “extremist” to just anyone who is angry and religious. The “extremists” in the South are so because they want to be returned to their real country, not be part of some two faced peaceful / ignore the south Buddhist country. This is not the same as an extremist on the London Metro, proving a point with a bomb.

    Possibly everyone “wishes” that Thailand would “we’d just give them the frickin’ provinces — and let them be, close the borders and let them survive on their own” but this not the final solution. Thailand took control of these provinces and so should look after them admirably and as if they were equal. This does not happen, hence the people are unhappy. This is justified. Imagine is the Government decided to treat all Bangkokians as third rate citizens?

    On a different point:

    Why is it that when I read London MB, I do not see posts about Scotland? When I read Vienna MB, I do not see posts about Innsbruck. When I read Tokyo MB I do not see posts about Kyoto?

    But when I read Bangkok MB, over 2/3 of the posts on the first page are NOT about Bangkok, but about Thailand or general topics that do not really pertain to Bangkok?

  9. Bonifide (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 1:19 pm

    Ah. I never say my viewpoints are correct and I’m certainly not always accurate because I don’t have time to sit and research everything before I post a _blog_. I’m not part of the associated press or some news organization.

    I post my views because I want to invoke/hear other people’s thought and from my experience getting information for others is the quickest & fastest way to gain knowledge & learn.

    I’m just part of an uneducated mass attempting to become educated.

  10. him (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 1:34 pm

    You know, I’m not sure this is the place for you to educate yourself? Shouldn’t you be providing thought out information, rather than potentially incorrect, heat of the moment information?

    What the fuck do I know anyway, eh? But THAT AJARN has a bloody good point about the relevancy of many of the posts on this site compared to other metblogs.

  11. Ben Harris (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 2:48 pm

    I’ve avoided posting about the problems in the south deliberately for the reasons you guys have mentioned, but to my knowledge this is the only post on the main page that is not relevant to Bangkok people, places, events or life. Oh, wait there’s my post seeking more authors too.

    Having said that, I will admit that I haven’t always point out how my posts are relevant to Bangkok so I can understand why you guys might say that.

  12. THAT AJARN (unregistered) on August 16th, 2005 @ 6:04 pm

    Mayhaps I was over enthusiastic with my 2/3. However, my viewpoint:

    Dangerzone is not about Bangkok

    Thaksin in 312 is not about Bangkok

    It’s hard being beautiful isn’t even a post, it’s a link

    Do you take amex is only kind of about Bangkok

    My point is this: you ask for contributions, but seem to have little control over what is currently here. People do not tend to join something that they feel is substandard, regardless of “join and make it better” pleas. Please understand I do not make these points for no reason, they are made after reading your sister MBs.

    You cannot attract writers by mearly thinking people will join to even out the rubbish / non-rubbish posts.

  13. John (unregistered) on August 17th, 2005 @ 10:13 am

    The Muslim extremists see this area as part of Dar Al-Islam (land of Islam). The resurgent jihad (thanks to Saudi Arabia and all the other fundamentalist regimes with lots of oil money), the jihad is on worldwide. To be ruled by infidels, in their view of the world, is unbearable. All other religions are to be destroyed. It’s a nasty war worldwide, and we can’t even say it’s name – ISLAM.

  14. HAPPY THE CLOWN (unregistered) on August 19th, 2005 @ 5:23 am


  15. Ben Harris (unregistered) on August 19th, 2005 @ 10:13 am

    It seems the happy clown isn’t living up to his namesake.

  16. Willi Brix (unregistered) on September 17th, 2005 @ 3:42 pm

    And what was the South *before* it became muslim?

    I think what we forget here is that Islam is a vehicle that only has one gear — forward.
    Once a territory is Dar-Al-Islam, it always is.
    Same with people. Once muslim, always muslim. Leaving is apostecy, and the punishment is death.

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